Mistakes and states

Revenge trading on forex

Revenge trading on forex is an attempt to get back what was lost with the next trade, usually at increased size. The English name is precise: the decision is not about money but about restoring justice. It is the most expensive mistake of all, because it is the only one that multiplies the loss.

Revenge on the market on forex: the mechanics of the decision

From the inside revenge trading does not look like «taking revenge on the market». It looks like a rational calculation, and that is its strength.

01A change of reference point

After a loss the goal becomes not «to be in profit over the distance» but «to get back to the morning balance». The task has changed, and with it the acceptable risk.

a new goal
02The timeframe shrinks to a day

It has to be recovered today. With a short deadline the only way to close the gap is to increase size: the win rate cannot be changed in a day.

deadline pressure
03The gambler's fallacy supplies the justification

«After two stops the third is due». The probability does not change, but the feeling that it does provides a formal argument for increasing.

a false justification

Note that all three components appear before the trade, not at the moment the button is pressed. Which means the chain has to be broken in the same place — at the level of the decision «today I must get it back».

What it costs: a step-by-step calculation

Take a deposit of $10,000, a base risk of 2 % and doubling after every loss. Risk is calculated from current equity — the way the terminal calculates it.

StopRiskLossBalance with revenge tradingBalance at a constant 2 %
12 %−$200$9,800$9,800
24 %−$392$9,408$9,604
38 %−$753$8,655$9,412
416 %−$1,385$7,271$9,224
532 %−$2,327$4,944$9,039
drawdown with revenge trading: −50.6 % · at constant risk: −9.6 %
growth needed to recover: +102.3 % against +10.6 %

The difference in the result is $4,095, that is more than forty percent of the deposit, with one and the same run of five stops and one and the same strategy. Only the reaction to a loss changes.

And the main thing: after revenge trading more than a doubling is needed to return to the starting point. At an expectancy of +0.35 R per trade and 2 % risk that is around one hundred and ten trades — months of work. After an ordinary run of stops fifteen would have been enough.

Three rules that break the chain

firstConstant risk, fixed as a numberThe risk per trade does not change during the month under any circumstances. A review happens only on the planned date and only on statistics.
secondA stop-day after two stops in a rowNot after three and not «by how you feel»: two in a row is the point where it is still cheap. The mechanism is described in the section on the daily limit.
thirdA ban on money targets within the dayAs soon as the wording «I need to get back N dollars» appears, trading stops. A money target over a short timeframe is physically achievable only through growth in size.

The first rule is the most important and the cheapest: it closes not only revenge trading but also greed and euphoria. All three mistakes show up in one and the same thing — a changed position size.

Martingale: the same mechanism in the form of a strategy

Sometimes doubling after a loss is presented not as a breakdown but as a system: martingale. The arithmetic does not change, and the promise that «the run will break sooner or later» holds exactly until the deposit runs out.

capital needed for a run of n doublings at a base stake s: s × (2ⁿ − 1)
a base of 2 % and a run of 8 stops require 510 % of the deposit

And a run of eight losses in a row at a 45 % win rate occurs over a hundred trades with a probability of about 31 % — that is, in roughly every third hundred. This is not a rare event you can leave out of your plans.

Four forms of revenge trading: one mechanism, different names

A rise in risk after a loss rarely looks like doubling the lot. More often it takes a form that has a respectable name of its own.

01Doubling the size

The most direct form. The lot grows, the distance to the stop is the same — which means risk grew by exactly the same factor.

visible in the statement at once
02Shortening the stop at the same lot

Formally the size did not change, but the stop is closer — and the probability of it being hit is higher. The risk in money stayed, the quality of the entry fell.

visible in the distance to the stop
03More trades instead of more size

The same revenge trading, distributed by quantity. Every trade is of planned size, the total daily risk is three times higher.

visible in the number of trades per day
04Averaging inside a position

Adding size against the move. The average price improves, the total risk grows linearly and was not calculated in advance.

visible in several entries in a row
05Switching to a lower timeframe

«I will make it back faster there». The number of signals grows, the share of costs in the risk grows with it, and there are no statistics for the new timeframe.

visible in a change of instrument and timeframe
06Topping up the account the same day

The form that takes the episode beyond the evening. The risk in percent returns to plan, the absolute sum at risk grows.

visible in the balance history

What all six have in common is a change to a trade parameter after a loss rather than before it. There is one test: would you have taken this trade with the same settings if the previous one had closed in profit? If not, it is revenge trading, whatever it is called.

What to do in the first fifteen minutes after a stop

Revenge trading forms not at the moment the button is pressed but in the first minutes after a loss, when the statement of the task changes. Below is what actually works in that window.

worksWrite the loss down in R, not in currency«Minus one R» is a planned cost, «minus 4,200 roubles» is money you worked for. The unit of measurement noticeably changes how bearable it is, and this is the only free technique on the list.
worksLook at a number, not at the chartHow many trades today, how much is left before the limit, what the planned size is. Switching to verifiable quantities takes the decision out of a state and back into a procedure.
worksGet up from the desk for ten minutesPhysiological arousal subsides by itself in 20–40 minutes if it is not sustained by the chart. Positions are managed by orders meanwhile.
does not workTalking yourself into «trading calmly»It demands the resource exactly when there is least of it, and usually ends in a trade «by way of exception».
does not workTaking half size «to take your mind off it»A reduced lot becomes an excuse to stay at the terminal, and half an hour later the size is back to what it was.
does not workSetting a goal of recovering the sum by the eveningA money target over a short timeframe is achievable only through growth in size: the win rate cannot be changed in an evening.

Frequently asked questions

How do you stop revenge trading on the market?

Not by a decision «I will not do it again» but by two mechanisms: fixed risk and a stop-day after two stops in a row. Both are introduced away from the market and require no consent at the moment they fire — that is their only advantage over a promise.

But what if the setup after a loss really is a good one?

Then it will still be good at planned size. The test is simple: would you have taken this trade with the same lot if the previous one had closed in profit? If size depends on the result of the last trade, it is revenge trading regardless of the quality of the setup.

Is revenge trading the same as martingale?

The mechanics are the same, the difference is in the framing: martingale is declared as a system in advance, revenge trading arises along the way. For the account there is no difference; for recognising it there is: martingale is easier to spot and refuse, because it is written down.

What should you do right after you have chased a loss and lost?

Close the terminal for a day, write the episode into the journal verbatim and come back at half size for five trades. The state is examined in the material on tilt, and if the account is gone entirely, in after blowing an account.

DiagramThe price of five stops in a row: constant risk against doubling
A comparison of the drawdown after five stops in a row: at a constant risk of 2 % the loss is 9.6 %, with doubling after every loss it is 50.6 %, and recovery requires growth of 10.6 % against 102.3 %
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